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I know that the rules of Spanish 21 say that the "envy bonus" is always $50, and the super bonus is $1,000, for bets of $5 to $25, or $5,000, for bets of $25 or higher. I was curious, what is the house edge penalty for playing at an empty table, or betting more than $25 a hand? Casinos offer regular blackjack for high rollers without maximum payouts. Do you know of any casinos that offer good rules for high rollers in Spanish 21? (i.e. a $500 envy bonus for a bet of $50) – Dean from Toronto
I don’t like it when games give worse odds to the higher bettors either. The value of these Super Bonuses is almost zero. The probability of hitting the Super Bonus is one in 549,000 with eight decks, and one in 668,000 million with six decks. Assuming six decks, the value of the envy bonus is worth 0.0015% per additional player, besides yourself. Sorry, I don’t know of any casinos that sweeten the bonuses for larger bets. September 1, 2007
What advantage (%) would a player have if the 10's were used in a stand on all 17, 8-deck spanish 21 game? – Kevin from Toronto
Keeping all the tens in the deck is worth 1.89% to the player. The house edge under those rules is normally 0.40%. So with all the tens in the shoe, the player edge would be 1.89%-0.40% = 1.49%.
October 17, 2006
In variants of Spanish 21 where redoubling is allowed, but the only permitted plays after doubling are redouble or stand, what is the correct play where the strategy card says "hit"? – Nick from London
Most redoubling situations tell you to double anyway. However, with a soft 15 to 17 against a 3, when the strategy says hit, you should actually redouble.
September 13, 2006
At the Meskwaki in central Iowa they pay 3 to 2 on an ace and 10 after splitting aces in Spanish 21. What is the effect of this rule? - Dave from Cedar Falls, Iowa
Are there any published card-counting strategies for
Spanish 21? If not, do you think the rules of Spanish 21
make it conducive to counting?
There was discussion about this at www.bj21.com
under the Green Chip section a couple years ago. As
I recall, the consensus was that counting was not as
advantageous as in blackjack but you could get away with
a lot more. I know of no published material on this.
March 6, 2004
You mention the really low house edge in Spanish 21,
but I have such a hard time playing the game because I get
verbally abused playing your strategy. Not that I question
anything you say about gambling, but man you are right about
hitting a 17 vs an Ace. The worst slack I got was from a guy
who was playing $400 split 8's vs a 3 and got two 11's and
doubled down and got 19 on both. I hit my 14 vs a 3, busted
with a ten. The dealer had 13 and pulled an 8. Now again I
question nothing you say, but man when they had to almost
call security it was really scary.
I get verbally abused too when I play Spanish
21. When I lived in Baltimore I played it a lot in
Atlantic City because the house edge is lower than
blackjack there. These idiots doing the abusing don't
understand that removing the tens from the decks makes
hitting less dangerous because the probability of busting
is less. Don't bother to try to explain this, the logic
won't make it through their thick skulls. I used to just
bite my tongue in these situations but the next time I
may not be so nice. Jan. 4,
2004
With reference to the first table of the Basic
Strategy for Spanish 21, I have some questions that I hope
you could clarify for me (standard game, dealer hits
s17):
Q1. For 17 v A (your reference - Rh). If the player
doesn't surrender (or double down surrender), does he in
fact hit? I ask this question because I'm a little unsure -
Scoblete's book says to stand 17 v A, as does Norm
Wattenberger's Spanish 21 strategy table in CVBJ3.
Q2. Your references to the 6-7-8 bonuses. Do all the
references apply equally to the 7-7-7 bonuses? e.g. Does *
mean "Hit if any 6-7-8 [OR 7-7-7] bonus
possible"?
Q3. p20 of Scoblete's Spanish 21 book says to hit 9 v
6 if player has a 3 card 9. Should I ignore this advice,
along with the "don't double down rescue" advice given in
his book?
Sorry to bother you with these questions but I've got
a Spanish 21 tournament coming up, and need all the help I
can get. Many thanks. - Alan McCartin from Sydney, Australia
- Yes, you should hit. I believe all those who
disagree to be in error.
- No, the 7-7-7 bonus is only possible with two
initial sevens. The proper strategy is indicated in
that row.
- Yes, you should ignore this advice.
Jan. 11,
2003
Is there a computer game of blackjack that I can
purchase that features both double exposure and spanish 21
bkackjack. I would like to practice both. - George from
Cresskill, USA
You can play both of these for free at any
Unified Gaming casino. See my casino
index for a list of them.
April 15, 2002
I recently started playing Spanish 21 because the
rules at the local Thunder Bay casino give it much better
odds than Blackjack. The dealer stands on soft 17, but uses
8 decks of cards. Does using 8 decks give better or worse
odds for the player than the 0.40% you calculated with 6
decks? - Raymond Balec from Thunder Bay, Canada
I always liked the name Thunder Bay for a city.
I used to work at a summer camp not too far from there in
Missanabie, Ontario. To answer your question, 6 decks is
better than 8. However, the difference in the house edge
is small, only about 0.03%. Aug.
6, 2001
What are your casino choices in AC for craps and
Spanish 21? When you mention that it is wise to take full
odds on a bet while playing craps, do you mean to match your
bet with an equal odds bet, or to make the highest allowed
odds bet along with your bet (ex: at a table with 10x max
odds place a $1 bet with a $1 free odds bet, or a $1 bet
with a $10 free odds bet). I'm a little confused on that. I
love your site, and honestly see it as "a diamond in the
rough" among gambling advice web sites. Personally, I like
to know what the mathematical odds are when it comes to
wagering my hard earned money! Thanks in advance for
answering my questions! - Dave Palmer from Roanoke, Virginia
Thanks for the compliment. The Spanish 21 rules
are probably the same across Atlantic City. I only know
of two that have the game, the Tropicana and the
Claridge, but there could be others by now. If I'm not
mistaken the best craps game is at the Sands, which
offers 5X odds. When I say to take the maximum odds I
mean bet the maximum allowed on the odds. Or $10 after a
$1 line bet, to use your example. Keep in mind you won't
win more money by taking the odds, you just get to bet
more without losing more in the long run.
April 15, 2001
Where on the Internet can I play Spanish 21 for either
fun or real money? - Reana Mattingly from Fairport,
U.S.
All Unified Gaming casinos as well as Global
Player offer Spanish 21. Unified Gaming stands on a soft
17 and thus has the lower house edge.
Jan. 20, 2001
Where is the best casino in las vegas to play Spanish
21? ñ Michael Mignogna from Philadelphia, USA
The Venetian. To the best of my knowledge, it
is the only casino in Las Vegas which stands on a soft
17 in Spanish 21, lowering the house edge from 0.76% to
0.40%. Jan. 7, 2001
Which is a better game for the player spanish21 or
just regular blackjack in Atlantic City. ñ Michael
from Philadelphia, USA
Spanish 21! Under Atlantic City rules blackjack
has a house edge of 0.43% and Spanish 21 has a house edge of .40%.
Dec. 31, 2000
In Spanish 21 you state that the house edge is .34%
using your basic strategy and dealer stands on soft 17. How
does the super bonus affect this percentage? That is to say,
what would the house edge be without the super bonus? Also,
what are the odds of hitting the super bonus on any given
hand? ñ Randy from Toledo, Ohio
In a 6-deck game the probability of a super
bonus is 1 in 668,382, and in an 8-deck game it is 1 in
549,188. The house edge without the super bonus would be
0.03% more either way.
Sept. 26, 2000
I know of a casino in the Seattle area that has
six-deck payout odds for the match the dealer bet in Spanish
21 with an eight-deck shoe. I am curious how this effects
the house advantage? - Chris Jensen from Seattle, Washington
This lowers the house edge from 3.06% to 1.42%. I believe I
remember reading that if there is a group of twenty people
in a room the odds of two of them sharing the same birthday
is less than 50/50. Is this true? - Ginny Stromme from
Seattle, Washington
The probability of 20 different people all
having different birthdays (ignoring leap day) is
(364/365)*(363/365)*(362/365)*Ö*(346/365) =
58.8562%. So the probability of at least one birthday
match is 41.1438%. Also, 23 is the fewest number of
people needed for the probability of a match to be
greater than 50%. Sept.
26, 2000
Your Spanish 21 basic strategy at your web site
gives the opposite tables for dealer hitting soft 21 and
standing on soft 21 from those given in Casino Player
September edition. Casino Player magazine gives table 1 for
dealer hitting a soft 17 and table 2 for standing. Your web
site gives the opposite charts. Which is correct? Also, hard
17 vs. dealer ace says surrender on first 2 cards, otherwise
hit. Do you hit hard 17 vs. ace? ñ Rod from Newburgh,
U.S.
Casino Player reversed the two charts in
their layout. I'm very embarrassed by this mistake. Yes,
you should hit a hard 17 against an ace if you can't
surrender. Aug. 27,
2000
Your newsletter gives the casino advantage on
Spanish 21 as 0.34% if the dealer doesn't hit soft 17. How
effective is card counting in further reducing this house
advantage and giving the advantage to the player? Thanks Rod
- Rod from Newburgh, Indiana
Good question. Yes, this house edge is
definitely low enough to consider card counting. Since
most card counters don't even consider Spanish 21 I think
the field is ripe to exploit the game and to do so with a
great deal of impunity. However, counting may not be as
effective in Spanish 21 as it is in regular blackjack. A small
card rich deck will benefit the player in more multiple
card 21's. To the best of my knowledge nobody has
developed index numbers for Spanish 21 but somebody
should. Maybe I will. July 16,
2000
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